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Wheelchair Access

4 messages in this thread | Started on 2003-08-27

Wheelchair Access

From: Mary Marshall Fowler (mmf1@comcast.net) | Date: 2003-08-27 16:27:46 UTC
Would you be willing to do this?

It would be helpful to a few people if people who planted boxes or
visited boxes would comment on the accessibility of the path of
travel to reach the box.

I had suggested this to a Mensa group years ago. Instead of "Not
wheelchair accessible" and "Wheelchair accessible" we settled on
comments on the difficulty, e.g., "lots of stairs", "requires good
climbing ability", "flat all the way", etc. My husband uses a
power wheel chair. We were able to go to our 1st box in Salt Water
State Park, Washington. Jim could get to the site with just a
little assistance. ...and I unhooked the blackberry branches which
had temporarily captured him. He couldn't reach the stones
which needed to be moved, but he got all the way to the site. He
would also easily get to the one at the promontory at Crab Cove,
Alameda, CA (in our own backyard, walking & rolling distance).

We are not asking for all box sites to be ADA accessible! Good
grief! Just as Half Dome in Yosemite is not accessible, there are
many places in the world which should never be made accessible.
Thanks!
Mary Marshall Fowler, Alameda, CA


Re: Wheelchair Access

From: wingnut_lb (wingnut_lb@hotmail.com) | Date: 2003-08-27 19:43:47 UTC
Very good point, just recently I found myself pondering this exact
same question as I placed boxes in a local park that had almost
complete wheel chair acces to my boxes. (which would be subjective I
suppose, as to how paved/or barked trail is really accesible, and the
person's ability) Contemplating that the person in the chair, would
need another along to actually get the box in some, but.... why
should they be left out? I find it hard occasionally for myself who
is always trekking along with a stroller to decipher which box clues
I could go on and which not. (this is not a complaint, just another
challenge, lol, of boxing) I take my chances and get in some harry
spots occasionally, but then, dd will grow out of her wheels soon
enough! On my clues I try to specify that I did the whole thing with
a stroller and the type of trails, but... I would never expect
everyone to, that's what makes it so interesting! I believe I may
add a wheelchair accesibility rating to my boxes soon tho! Good idea
and good luck. Wingnut


- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Mary Marshall Fowler"
wrote:
> Would you be willing to do this?
>
> It would be helpful to a few people if people who planted boxes or
> visited boxes would comment on the accessibility of the path of
> travel to reach the box.
>
> I had suggested this to a Mensa group years ago. Instead of "Not
> wheelchair accessible" and "Wheelchair accessible" we settled on
> comments on the difficulty, e.g., "lots of stairs", "requires good
> climbing ability", "flat all the way", etc. My husband uses a
> power wheel chair. We were able to go to our 1st box in Salt Water
> State Park, Washington. Jim could get to the site with just a
> little assistance. ...and I unhooked the blackberry branches which
> had temporarily captured him. He couldn't reach the stones
> which needed to be moved, but he got all the way to the site. He
> would also easily get to the one at the promontory at Crab Cove,
> Alameda, CA (in our own backyard, walking & rolling distance).
>
> We are not asking for all box sites to be ADA accessible! Good
> grief! Just as Half Dome in Yosemite is not accessible, there are
> many places in the world which should never be made accessible.
> Thanks!
> Mary Marshall Fowler, Alameda, CA


Re: Wheelchair Access

From: buffyvh88 (buffyvh@hotmail.com) | Date: 2003-08-27 20:46:06 UTC
Actually I am beginning to think that I should mention trail
difficulty in my clues. When we go letterboxing, we only have to
worry about ourselves, we don't have kids or a stroller or even a
wheelchair to consider and sometimes I don't think about that
when I am putting my clues online. I will make an effort to include
that info from now on so we can include more people in this
great hobby. This is also a good time to mention Silent Doug's
letterbox rating system. You answer a few questions on his site
and it determines the trail difficulty for you. Pretty handy actually.

Buffy
The Travelin' Trouts


Re: Wheelchair Access

From: hoopoe4me (scribenbirder@msn.com) | Date: 2003-08-27 20:47:11 UTC
Mary
When you posted about your trip to Salt Water SP I was surprised
that a wheelchair was able to make it on this venue.

I try to give some hint as to ease of use for people with special
needs ( elderly or the very young tots in tow) , but with the
technology of wheelchairs racing ahead, it is clear that I do not
have a good feeling for what would or would not be accessable for
chair users.

Certainly if anyone contacted me about my opinion of accessability,
I would be more than happy to give feed back on my boxes or boxes I
have visited.

Hoopoe
Redond WA